na kojem mjestu bi onda bila utakmica protiv Buducnosti — dinamozivivjecno

Nemam pojma :sweat:

Ali i to je jedan od najvećih mitova, ali nemam baš vremena razbijat ga iako sam odavno imao u planu otvorit temu o tom mitu. — NORTE

Službeno je rekord Maksimira 64.138 gledatelja na tekmi Zagreb - Osijek (1973) a prodanih ulaznica je bilo 48.802.

U glavi imam podatak da je za Dinamo - Santos bilo prodanih cca 55k karata a službena posjeta je bila "više od 64k" sto pise i na sluzbenoj stranici Dinama, a postoje price o tekmi sa Hajdukom na kojoj je bilo 70k.

Zapis na GNK Dinamo Web:
Iako je javnim prostorom raširena priča da rekordni posjet maksimirskim tribinama, po broju prodanih ulaznica, datira s utakmice Zagreba i Osijeka iz 1973. godine, svjedoci vremena podsjećaju da je po stvarnom broju gledatelja taj dvoboj tek na trećem ili četvrtom mjestu, a da vrh pripada upravo ogledu Dinama i Peleova Santosa. Više od 64.000 promatrača zdušno je grmjelo u prijateljskom ogledu protiv brazilskih velikana 12. rujna 1969.

Nedavno sam tražio između ostalog za prošlu kalendarsku godinu izračun koliko je klubu izmaklo prihoda zbog tih 4 besplatne ulaznice (koje ispadne koštaju ako biras Hajduk i Rijeku recimo više nego cijena godišnjeg članstva). Kad sam dobio podatke, ostao sam paf. — Pop corn

15 000 clanova uzelo po 4 karte koje u prosjeku kostaju 12€... Znaci oko 700k€?

Jesam pogodio ko Hajduk sa Debrecenom? :lol:

Koliko ima ljudi na Poljudu?

znam,stavio sam onu sliku da se vidi koliko je loš pogled na teren.

Radio sam analizu (samo 1 HNL) prije godinu, dvije i došao do zakljucka da hrvatska ima dobru posjetu u usporedbi sa slicnim europskim zemljama, pogotovo kad se uzme u obzir infrastruktura i broj stanovnika.

Stadion u Karlovcu jer recimo takav da je bolje gledati stream koji šteka i bez zvuka nego otic na tekmu.

Jel trebas mozda managera? — Jurki

Mislim da bi mi više trebao tjelohranitelj :lol:

Ajd cak nisi spomenul Savudriju.. pa ti je to jos jedan plus — Jurki

Savudriju cemo dogovoriti za šankom :lol:

Jao Sas kaj dosadilo ti je biti omiljen na zoni pa želiš da te malo tračamo i uputimo ti ne baš lijepe riječi nemoj u trenerske vode oni ovdje najgore prolaze. :) :) — serbus

Samo mi daj trenerski ugovor da možemo poceti razgovarati o raskidu ugovora i otpremnini :lol:

koliko vas luđaka ima na Zoni, mogli bi ovi u klubu outsourceati i Marketing i IT :clap: — miro

Mogu nam outsourcati i posao glavnog trenera :lol:

Proposal 11: Emotional connection with oversea supporters

There is a large community of Croats all around the globe who are emotionally connected to
their homeland and probably also to Croatian biggest football clubs. In the 80-tis Dinamo
organized a tour to Australia which was a great success. In those days, schedules are very
tight and for this reason it was hard to organize such a tour but there are other things that
club should do.

Club should do the following strategies for engaging overseas fans (e.g. Australia)

1. Emotional connection
- For overseas fans club should enforce values that resonate with national
identity (that is already in club identity)
- Doing interviews with overseas fans
- Do the overseas membership program. Officially recognize and support their
fan clubs, mention them on social media, and give them special recognition
before the match or at halftime (the speaker could mention several members
in Australia, etc),.
- Do the regular online meetings where also some of the club recognize players
would be present
- Former club players that come from overseas (e.g. Marko Viduka and Joe
Šimunić from Australia) could help the club build emotional connections with
overseas fans.

2. Merchandise
- Providing them easy and fast access to club merchandise

Proposal 12: Friendly and proactive staff

Stadium staff need to be educated that they are an important part of the matchday
experience. Fans, especially families and kids must feel welcomed and therefore staff must
be friendly and proactive

Proposal 13: First time visitors lifetime memories

The most important part of building high average attendance is Retention (make sure that
fans return for the next match) - It is much easier to convince people to visit more matches
after they have already visited at least one.

Therefore it is vital to create lifetime memories for first-time visitors (especially families and
kids). Such visitors will not only return but will also become club advocates and convince
other families to join them next time.

This can be achieved in many ways such as:
1. Introduce a “Certificate” for first time visitors
2. Create lifetime memories for kids such as allowing them to help set corner flags
before the match,
a. Players that are not playing should be with the fans. Signing autograph before
matches, talk, etc
3. Collect first-time testimonies (kids and their parents), share them and inspire other
families to attend the match

Proposal 14: Club history

Due to the old stadium, the club does not have its own museum (probably the museum could
be somewhere around the stadium or in the city center).

Anyway, the club could create a series of (5 - 10 minute) long video series about the club's
history. Different club-related historians, journalists, notable fans, former players, etc. could
represent their anecdotes and historical facts - Such unique, educational videos are always
interesting and would create a deeper emotional connection with the club

Proposal 10: Family fan base segment

Studies show that most of the fans develop emotional connection with the club until reaching
the age of 16. Children are future fans and with each child on the stadium club recruit at
least one adult.

Proposed vision of family engagement strategy is following:
1. Recruiting
- Marketing campaigns targeting families with children younger than 20 (Web, Schools)

2. Tickets
- Kids get a voucher for first time visit, parents must pay (voucher value could
be simply deducted from a family ticket price)
- Onsite: Special ticket office queue just for families

3. Outside the stadium
Family fan zone
- Only children and their family could access it
- Engagement for the children so parents can relax
- Club official mascots
- Healthy snacks and beverages for the kids

4. First time visitors informations and benefits
Club official website enhancements:
- First time visitors information
- Parking and public transport to the stadium
- When to arrive to the outside of stadium and recommendation
when to enter the stadium
Engagement video (vlog) of the whole experience.
- Representing family experience
- What can they expect in the family fan zone
- First time visitor benefits, e.g. meeting a player, club legend or getting a picture with an autograph of
his favorite player, etc.

5. Entrance
- Special entrance just for families

6. Inside the stadium
- Special family area.
- Children can get easily bored and it is less likely to be bored if they are
together with other kids. And also parents can be more relaxed and enjoy the
match.

7. After the match
Family engagement related surveys about the match day experience must be
sent to participants within 2 hours after. Results must be analyzed and family
engagement strategy adapted as soon as possible.

Proposal 8: Audience (building a fan base)

Studies show that environment (family, friends, and location) is the most important factor for
developing strong emotional connections. For example, a person who lives in Zagreb is
more likely to support Dinamo than any other club.

It is vital to understand that the strongest team identification develops in people younger
than the age of 16. For this reason, the main focus must be on young people somehow related to
Dinamo, Zagreb, and Croatia.

Audiences should be split into following categories:
1. Primary: People younger than the age of 20 who live near Zagreb and in parts of
Croatia / Bosnia and Herzegovina with a traditional large Dinamo fanbase.
2. Secondary 1: People older than the age of 20 who live near Zagreb and in parts of
Croatia / Bosnia and Herzegovina with a traditional large Dinamo fanbase.
3. Secondary 2: Croatian diaspora living in Germany, Austria, Slovenia, etc.

Content
The most engaging content type is video and for this reason, the primary content type should
be video. Photography should be used only in cases when having an additional sentimental
value (e.g. iconic photographs or photographs from old events for which video does not
exist).

Content would be adjusted to two audience subcategories:
1. General: Fans who follow the club briefly and are interested in less complex content
(matches, transfer signings, match information, etc.)
2. Expert: Fans who follow the club deeply and are interested in complex content (club
history, board decisions, youth academy, budgets, etc.)

The club needs to understand that content with the highest engagement is unique content
produced by the club because such content can’t be found anywhere else. To increase
emotional connection content must provide additional value/information about the club's
past, present, or future. Additionally, content must be adjusted based on fan feedback
(number of views, likes, shares, etc.).

There is a lot of potential high-engagement content and the following table presents only a
small portion of all possibilities

1. Club official podcast: A podcast where it would discuss the club's past, present, and
future. Fans would interact with questions. Famous club-related people such as
former athletes, famous fans, etc. would participate in the podcast.
2. Board member interviews: At the end of every yearly quarter board members would
do a presentation about the club's present and future activities. Club members would
participate with upfront send questions
3. Best skills and goals of specific athletes or match
4. Sentimental photographies: Photographies would text descriptions would be
published
5. Dinamo on European tour: Videos in the length of 10 – 20 minutes where the club’s
European opponents would be presented (opponent’s history, past matches, fans,
stadium, etc).

Check Barca on Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDdIgbg9vIE

Proposal 9: Local food and beverages
Food and beverages in the stadium should be adapted to the local cuisine and weather
conditions. E.g., when it is cold, more hot beverages should be offered (e.g. hot chocolate
for kids). Also, local cuisine would increase emotional connection (e.g. štruklji, local beer
brand, etc). Include healthy food (especially for the kids)

Proposal 5: Increasing match day experience and average attendance

Match day experience can be increased by embracing positive things (gains) and by
detecting and improving supporters' pains (obstacles, problems, etc). The most efficient way
to detect pains is with repetitive qualitative and qualitative research (survey and open
discussion).

Quantitative research and qualitative research were already done on zonadinamo.com (link
below) with the following main outcomes:

Positive:
1. 94.8% of supporters who visited the match at Maksimir stadium were satisfied with
the experience immediately after the game
2. eTicketing works great (the issue to resolve is to enable access to the stadium
without a printed ticket - introduce ticket readers)
3. View from stands is good
4. Public transport works great

Negative:
5. Entering the stadium is painful because of long queues (NOTE: Already improved to
some point)
6. Stadium cleanliness is terrible
7. The club store on the match day is not good enough because long queues
8. Food and beverage offerings on the match day are not good enough because long
queues

Action plan tasks:
1. Improve stadium cleanliness
2. Open more stadium gates when it is needed (half of them are currently not used)
3. Expand stadium shop
a. Maybe some kinds of containers or something like those “temporary wooden
houses”.
4. Increase the number of food and beverage courts in the stadium.
a. Queues can be reduced with the introduction of online ordering.
b. Some clubs offer pre-ordering “lunch boxes” (a couple of hours or one day in
advance). This way you can offer various, healthy and unhealthy options
Full journey with result interpretation and discussion can be found on (NOTE: If needed, I
can also share journey questions and more detailed results).

https://www.zonadinamo.com/discussion/comment/283228

Proposal 6: Aftermatch dialogue with supporters

Do after-match interviews with supporters and ask them about their experience, what should
be improved, what they enjoyed, etc. The club will receive valuable feedback vital for
improving the matchday experience and supporters will feel valued (increased emotional
connection). The tone and brand behind this proposal is “Club care about you”.

The club should also use those interviews as unique content that can be promoted on social
media. Just collect supporters' suggestions, complaints, etc, internally discuss solutions, and
present solutions/results to the public. This will raise public awareness about positive change
and it will raise emotional connection. After improvement, It would be great to do a video
interview with supporters and show the general public that things are improving.

Proposal 7: Club dialogue with the supporters

The club needs to establish one council group for each fan base segment because each
group has its own needs. Fans could apply to participate in the council group for specific
segments and afterward, the club should select (maybe draw) a couple of fans out of the
candidate pool.

Membership in this council group would last at most two years. The reason is because new
people bring new ideas.

Note: Ultras have established hierarchy and for this reason, I would make an exception in a
way that they would decide by themself who is going to represent them and what they want
to discuss.

Fan base segments:

1. Families: The most important group for the future, they would probably like to
discuss comfort, entertainment for the children, safety, cleanliness of the facilities, etc

2. Regular fans: They go to the matches also to see friends, bond, escape from
real-world problems, and so on. They would probably like to discuss issues with
beer and food queues, view of the pitch, etc.

3. Students: Similar to regular fans, they are often more on a lower budget. Also, they
like to have more vivid entertainment (e.g. DJ in the fan zone), food, and beer that is
not so pricey etc.

4. Elderly: They would probably like to discuss access to the stadium, having seats in
the areas reachable by not too many stairs, maybe to have an elderly area closer to
the pitch etc.

Guide:
1. Establishment of different council groups (described above)
2. Monthly meetings
3. Possibility to attend meetings remotely
4. Club presidents should attend meetings at least once, or twice per year.
5. The club captain should be present at least once per year to create two way
a positive connection between supporters and players

Prije neko vrijeme sam uhvatio mao vremena pa napisao par proposala koje bi klub mogao (trebao) implementirati pa eto, ak nekoga zanima :lol:

Introduction

Why do some supporters travel for hours to attend the match while others rather watch the
game at home or the bar near the stadium?

There are many factors such as weather conditions, and stadium infrastructure but the most
important factor is the emotional connection (also known as team identification) between
the club and the supporter. Supporters with higher emotional connections are much more
likely to attend the game and buy merchandise at the club's official shop than supporters
with lower emotional intelligence.

Engagement strategies are strategies for building an emotional connection and result in
increased average attendance, merchandise sales, better sponsorship deals, better
relationships with local municipalities, etc.

Engagement strategies are typically built around purpose and values - club identity. It
allows you to find the club's purpose and to base the club on something more than just
football. But note, that it is vital that core values and purpose are defined together with
supporters and not by club executives.

Engagement strategies vital because clubs usually have the following two primary goals:
1. Sports success on the pitch
2. Building strong fanbase/community (engagement strategies)

Proposal 1: Local community

For developing a strong fanbase is vital for the club to build a strong relationship with the local
community because only local people can regularly attend matches.

This can be achieved with:
1. Physical presence:
- Organizing events such as “Dinamo u tvom kvartu” or “Plava noč” where local
people can meet club representatives (some players, club ambassadors, etc).

2. Online presence:
- Content with a focus on embracing connection between the club and the local
community (e.g. former players, a notable fan who grown in this particular
part of the city)
- Video interviews with local historians who can present some historical facts
related to the club and its relation to the local community. Or just representing
the historical facts of club values (e.g. why was Dinamo important for Croatian
people in Yugoslavia)

3. Great relationship with local organizations such as humanitarian organizations,
firefighters, schools, etc

Examples:
1. Millwall: Docker club invites dockers to watch their game on docker day.
2. AS Roma - Every signing shows a picture of missing children. Using publicity to do
something great for the (world) community

Proposal 2: Measuring emotional connection

It is vital to measure fan emotional engagement because this is the only way to understand if
the club is moving in the right direction.

The most used way to measure fan engagement is a survey with only one question:
On a scale of 1 to 5, how valued do you feel by the club? (NOTE: Also answers 1.5, 2.5,
3.5, and 4.5 should be offered).

This is the most universal metric of general fan emotional connection (and satisfaction) and it
should be repeated a couple of times per year. A survey should be sent to every club
member and to fans who participated in at least one match the e.g. last season. It is not
recommended to send it to the wider, general public because we would get non relevant
data.

Proposal 3: Short video interviews

Series of video interviews with ordinary supporters, celebrities, and former players with only
one open-ended question.
Video interview 1: “What does Dinamo mean to you?”.
Video interview 2: “What is your early memory of the Dinamo”
Video interview 3: “What is your memory of the first match that you attended”
Video interview 4: “What is your happiest (or saddest) memory related to Dinamo”
Video interview 5: “Why do you love Dinamo”
…
Such video interviews not only make lifetime memories for this specific supporter who
attended the interview but most importantly, also exploit the club's true values and purpose.
The club should use them to generate unique content interesting to the general fanbase
(increasing emotional connection)

Implementation: Very similar to “Nedamo Maksimir”
[url=http://]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Ma_pHabFE[/url]


Proposal 4: Written testimonies

It is much easier and faster to get supporter testimonies about their story related to the club
in text form. The club could collect the most interesting stories and publish them publicly. It
could even be published as a club official testimonies book, do additional video interviews, or
something like that. Also, from such testimonies, it is very easy to extract the club purpose
and values.

Similar, textual testimonies were already collected on zonadinamo.com

https://www.zonadinamo.com/discussion/248/moja-prica-zasto-volim-dinamo-zagreb/p1

ima neko stream bez ovih jebenih reklama koje je nemoguće pogasit — kinfa95

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